I like to document my autoimmune journey, mainly for myself, but also because my posts could show up in search results for those seeking information. Also and perhaps most importantly, we need to educate more people about autoimmune disease so that sufferers aren't gaslighted about their symptoms.
This is from my November 17 post:
My struggle with dryness continues. In my post from August 25, I wrote in regard to my summer autoimmune flare:
I feared that I had Sjögren's syndrome, which causes excessive dryness. I have suspected Sjögren's syndrome for years, but I tested negative in the past. Most people with Sjögren's syndrome do test negative, so that doesn't rule it out. I plan to be tested again later this year, just in case the test shows something.
I was tested two weeks ago. I tested positive for Anti-SSA/Ro antibodies, which are autoantibodies present in around eight different autoimmune diseases, most notably including Sjögren's syndrome. I am being referred to rheumatology, but I know it is Sjögren's syndrome. I have the hallmark symptoms.
My new patient appointment with the rheumatologist was on January 6. I was very nervous about this appointment, for three reasons.
First, I didn't know the doctor, and I had no way of knowing whether my experience would be good or bad. People who have autoimmune diseases quite frequently are gaslighted by their doctors and told to see a psychiatrist. I'm not kidding. I have read so many horror stories about treatment for both Hashimoto's (thyroid) and Sjögren's.
Second, I did not want a lip biopsy done. Many rheumatologists believe that having a positive blood marker just isn't enough to know if someone has Sjögren's. This makes no sense, but it's tied to sexism (80% of sufferers are female) and lack of research into autoimmunity (also tied to sexism). Furthermore, many doctors see complaints of dryness as being unimportant and easily solved by over-the-counter ointments and lotions. They'd feel differently if they had horrific dryness everywhere inside and outside their body and while being allergic to most all of those products!
So, I had way of knowing if I'd be forced into a lip biopsy. No way would I ever want one. It involves cutting into the back of the lower lip and extracting a salivary gland for testing. I have mouth sensitivity that flares terribly with any sort of mouth trauma. I had a terrible time after my double-tooth extraction in 2021, and I hate to think about what a lip biopsy would do to me. Indeed, here are some comments I pulled out of some discussion threads about lip biopsies. Each paragraph is from a different person.
My lip has been numb, etc for almost a year. Lately it feels a bit better but will never be normal.
It took mine over two months to get feeling again. I still have some numbness.
Mine is still a little numb nearly 14 years later. Sorry.
Over a year. Sensitive to hot and cold. It's like it never healed. Doc says it takes time. Would have never had it if I had known …
My doc won't even do the lip biopsy because they can easily get the wrong spot with a false negative.
Took a good amount of time, was painful, and left my lower lip permanently damaged with numbness.
I had a lip biopsy done 2 1/2 years ago and I have nerve damage. My lip is numb a lot which can make it hard to pronounce words sometimes and I’m always spilling drinks down the front of my shirt. Lately it’s been numb constantly and it’s driving me crazy.
My Dr specifically doesn't order that test because of problems healing and permanent numbing that can happen.
Took a good amount of time, was painful, and left my lower lip permanently damaged with numbness.
My rheumatologist team said it was outdated and barbaric process
I have enough problems without having my lip cut open.
Third and what I felt was the most likely outcome, I fully expected to be told that my Sjögren's is too mild to treat and that we needed to wait until I get even worse. And truly, I believe my condition is mild moving towards moderate, and I am nowhere near as dry or ill as these people in the Sjögren's online discussions are.
At my appointment, the doctor walked in, introduced himself, sat down in a rolling chair right in front of me, and asked me for my symptoms. I had memorized a short list of the key things that I knew that I must mention. I had to get it right. My mental list was dry eyes and mouth, coughing, dry lips, problems with taste.
This is an approximation of what I told the doctor:
I have dry eyes and dry mouth. This morning I had trouble opening my eyes when I woke because of how dry they were. I just put a cough drop in my mouth, because otherwise, I would cough all through this appointment. My lips are dry and burn all the time, and the only thing I can tolerate putting on them is Vaseline. My sense of taste is off. Most of the time I can't taste processed foods properly. I think it's that I can't taste the flavor chemicals used in processed food. Sometimes I will have a short stretch where a food tastes fine, then it tastes awful again.
I no doubt don't have the exact order of what I said, nor do I have the exact words. I do know that I mentioned my sense of taste last, ending with the remark about the chemicals. The doctor listened to me as I reported my symptoms, and at about the time I began talking about my sense of taste, he wheeled his chair over to the computer and checked a box, which was no doubt the diagnosis.
He wheeled his chair back over and said, "Dr. ________ referred you to me because you tested positive for Sjögren's syndrome." He then asked me a few questions. He wanted to know if I was in any pain from my joints. My pain has been on the increase during the last six to eight months, ever since the dryness really started ramping up. I've had a lot of pain in my upper legs, which has been partially improved by adding a salmon oil supplement. I told him about that.
He asked another question about my joints and swelling, and I mentioned that I do have some puffiness around some of my finger joints. I didn't mention arthritis, and I have long believed that I was beginning to develop it. He looked at my fingers, but made no comment about whether my joint situation is Sjögren's or arthritis. I don't suppose it matters, since a rheumatologist treats both conditions.
He then proceeded to tell me about Sjögren's and gave me lots of suggestions about things I can do to help with the dryness, 100% of which I already knew and had already long been doing. I listened politely, relieved that it didn't sound like I would be told to get a lip biopsy. Whew!
As the doctor talked, he mentioned pilocarpine, which is a drug taken orally that can help with dryness in the mouth and eyes. I had already learned about it online. The doctor asked if I wanted to get a prescription for it. I said that I wanted it.
The doctor then spoke about hydroxychloroquine, which I knew was the main treatment for Sjögren's (and I'm sure most of you have heard of hydroxychloroquine because of events from 2020). He said that it slows the progression of the disease but doesn't cure it. Hydroxychloroquine will reduce brain fog and the pain associated with Sjögren's. He asked if I wanted a prescription for hydroxychloroquine, and I said that I did.
I was leery, because my thyroid medication journey was very difficult, having to go from one bad medication reaction to the next. Nevertheless, I have to start the journey for Sjögren's and will deal with whatever happens.
It's supposed to take at least six weeks for pilocarpine to help with dryness. The hydroxychloroquine will more than likely take at least six months to help, and that's assuming that I don't have a bad reaction to the generic drug.
I am relieved that my appointment went well and that I ended up with two prescriptions. My next appointment is in April.
6/16/2025 Dear Jennifer, I'm SO sorry that you have both Hashimoto's & Sjögren's. When one gets one AI disease that almost always opens the door for all the other AIs to come in. 🤬 My mild, mild AI fun & games started in the 1980s (20s & 30s) w/all positive tests for RA & Sjögren's. I cant even remember now what I had been complaining about. Lol! I remember being very healthy & energetic & busy with full time college, full time job & full time partying - w/ a 4.0 GPA. 👍🏼 My SEVERE AI fun & games came suddenly in 1997, when, at 43, I was dx'd with End Stage, Grade IV, Systemic, Refractory, Interstitial Cystitis. I'll just be brief & blunt about that nightmare & admit it caused me to loose everything by 2001. By 1998 I developed VERY OBVIOUS Sjögren's & Fibromyalgia, yet my labs were now sero-negative". Having 3 AIs take pain & exhaustion to a whole new level. I'll leave out a massive "misery chunk" (lol) from 2001 to 2021. As of 2023, the drs can't tell if I actually have RA or just really aggressive "regular" arthritis bc my labs are now sero-negative." But ... if it walks like a duck, etc, – right? Sjögren's has really destroyed my eyes & my teeth. Anyway, that's all I'll bore u with regarding my health issues. I would've preferred to send this by private email or message, but I don't see one listed on your site. ☆ ☆I just want to say I LOVE your website & all the tedious research you've done on the history of Nancy Drew. I didn't know things were so complex for a set of books for tween girls! lol. I have a mixed set of 1-56 (the only ones that matter to me) & now I know I have some "near" first editions THANKS TO YOUR SITE! I do have a couple of questions. 1. In your excellent section "Nancy Drew Mystery Stories Original & Revised Text
ReplyDeleteBooks" you show EVERY type of book cover from Day 1, 1930, to the end, but you didn't include the dust jackets that go with them. Am I correct in that EVERY Drew book until the yellow spine editions had DJs? I ask bc I'm seeing a lot of "tweed" & various original blue editions on Ebay that are being sold WITHOUT the DJs & the sellers aren't disclosing this. So, I believe they are asking too much for an edition w/o a DJ. Do u agree with me? I just purchased an excellent copy of #13 The Mystery of the Ivory Charm (1936) .. but there is something OFF about the DJ. It doesn't match any photo of it on your site or on Abebooks selling the same copy. Could it be a phony? Who would do that? I Google-photo'd it & its sketchy AI said it "looked authentic bc of this 'n that.". Im still not convinced. Since I'm new to all this I wasn't able to really explore the book until I actually got it in my hands. Thanks to your site, I calculated the book to have been printed in 1958 & it has all 25 chapters. 👍🏼 Another question I have is; What does 1 letter & 1 number mean by the published year? They're not listed that way in any of the books. Example: 1930A-1. ☆☆ So sorry this turned out to be SO long! Apologies! This all started a few weeks ago when I had just "blindly" decided to buy a few Drew's for nostalgia's sake & that's when I came across too, too many variations. It was mind-numbiing! I found over 20 websites , including yours, which has been the MOST helpful. ☆ Jennifer, I wish u the best as you learn to battle Sǰögren's. There is a website - SFA, I think - Sjögrens Foundation. They used to have good resources & educational material. Regards, Laura Milagros (RN, BS, medically retired 2001)
I'm sorry to hear about your autoimmune diseases. It's really tough. I appreciate your kind thoughts.
ReplyDeleteWhile I don't have RA, a close relative does, and I see firsthand everyday how horrible that disease is.
The 1930A-1 and similar numbers come from Farah's Guide to the Nancy Drew books. Years ago, David Farah tracked all of the different printings for the Nancy Drew books. "1930A-1" means that the book was printed in "1930." The "A" means early in the year. The "1" means that it was the first printing.
The printing number from Farah's Guide is most useful for people who want to collect the first printings.
For most people, just see what the last title listed is on the back cover of the book, inside the book on a page other than the copyright page, or on the front flap of the dust jacket if present. Let's say that a Nancy Drew book lists to The Witch Tree Symbol. That means it was printed in 1955, the year that Witch Tree Symbol was first published.
There is a lot of information to digest. I do have a page that lists the most helpful links so that fans aren't as overwhelmed.
https://series-books.blogspot.com/p/nancy-drew-collecting-information.html
All of the tweed and blue books that you see up for sale online did originally have dust jackets.
6/17/25 Hi Jennifer, Thanks so much for reading my super long post & for answering my questions. Does David Farah have a website? I've looked & I cant find it. Again, your website is so extensive & thorough & very easy to follow. I grew up reading the original yellow books (most with Nancy behind a tree on the back cover) from 1962 to about 1966. I devoured them & reads them over & over. ❤️ Then high school came. lol. It wasnt until I was in my 30s (late 80s) that I came across one of the blue & orange ones & later a "tweed" in a thrift book store. I bought both! Not sure why, but I just got "re-bit" by the Nancy Drew bug only about 3 weeks ago, & I found gems I can't afford & a few I could. 👍🏼 Thanks for letting me know that ALL the tweed books came with DJs! I can't believe how many of those tweed books are for sale on Ebay WITHOUT THE DJ! 😠 The sellers have obviously not done research & have no clue their books are even missing the DJ. This greatly de-values their book, correct. Do you know why the DJs for the tweed books are almost non -existent? I find it odd that the DJs from 1930s original blue books have a much higher survival rate. It's a .... mystery!
ReplyDeleteFarah's website is farahsbooks.com. You can see how his guide is laid out by viewing some of the listings for secondhand older editions on eBay. There is a listing on eBay titled "Farah's Guide Eleventh Printing By David Farah Nancy Drew Reference 1999." That listing has a number of photos showing what the inside of the guide looks like.
ReplyDeleteWhat you see for sale online varies over time. Many tweed books do still have their jackets, but right now likely more of the bare copies are turning up than ones with jackets.
It's fun collecting the books!